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MightyWhitey · GRAMPA Royalty Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Posts: 521

GSOP 2008

**UPDATE**
We will not be parking in the road this year! The contractor across the street has agreed to let us park there! Signs will be posted... please be careful crossing the street.

Greetings Everyone! Thank you for your patience as Quentin and my schedules’ has been absolutely crazy. We will be running 5 tournaments this year, four $40 buy-ins and the MAIN EVENT with a $200 buy-in.

If you have any questions, PM me or Quentin.

REGISTRATION STARTS AT 2 PM. TOURNAMENTS START AT 2:30 PM SHARP!

Address: 12540 60th avenue, Allendale, MI 49401
Click Here for Google Map Directions

Late registration will be accepted until the 1st player is eliminated. 100 chip penalties will be assessed to anyone buying in after 2:30.

DATES

June 7th - No Limit Texas Hold'em Buyin: $40
June 21st - Pot limit Omaha Buyin: $40
June 28th - Limit Texas Hold'em Buyin: $40
July 12th - Heads up No limit Holdem* Buyin: $40
August 2nd - Main Event (No Limit Hold'em) ** Buyin: $100

All Events this year have a guaranteed $1000 first place.***

New additions this year.
(1) Projector - We have a lot nicer projector that is much easier to read
(2) Chairs - WE have 30 padded chairs, if you would like to donate more, please do Smile

(3) Blind Structure - The biggest change is the blinds this year. We've added a 20-40 level, and a 30-60 level to allow players to see more hands before being forced to make a move.

No call ahead registrations will be accepted. All seats must be reserved with CASH in person. (Other players may buy you in... Quentin and Greg will not)

All Information subject to change. For additional information, go to www.GrandRapidsPoker.com

*Heads up Event limited to 64 players. Pay ahead of time to guarantee a spot for this event! Seats will go quickly

**Satellite tournaments are in the works for this higher buyin tournament

*** Based on minimum 50 players. No GSOP event has had fewer than 40 players in its 4 year existence

Blind Structure is located in a separate post

Big T · Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 6:55 pm Post subject:

Sweet! Start the satellites, I am a satellite whore!
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cuban1 · Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 7:40 pm Post subject:

...And I'm your pimp! so you better earn them $$$

brucel · GRAMPA Royalty Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Posts: 2149

Bad schedule - will be in Vegas for two of the events. Must be some conspiracy going on here.

MightyWhitey · GRAMPA Royalty Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Posts: 521

no conspiracy.... they run in the summer... can't start them early because i'm getting married Saturday and will be gone most of May.

had a couple weddings to dodge in there as well. Sorry to all the WSOP players that will miss some :-\

Hopefully you can make the main event.

brucel · GRAMPA Royalty Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Posts: 2149

Conspiracies run very deep. Sometimes even wedding dates are set and seasons occur specifically to advance evil causes.

Not that I am paranoid.

Q · Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 10:38 pm Post subject:

He may be on to us Greg

resonator · Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 12:01 pm Post subject:

Everytime I see a new post in this thread I think .... Weeeeeeee Poker!
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MightyWhitey · GRAMPA Royalty Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Posts: 521

To generate some more buzz I’d like some people’s opinions on some ideas Quentin and I were rolling around. These are not finalized…. Just looking for feedback.

Player of the Year:

1) We are thinking of taking 1 dollar from each buyin and putting into a pot for the player of the year. It would be between 300-400 dollars I’m assuming, and would be a nice little kick for people that decide to come out to the events.

2) Points changes – Mulling over an overhaul in how points are determined for Player of the year. The last couple years it’s come down to basically doing really well in the first tournament. (because it’s always the largest turnout.) We were considering giving fixed points at the final table instead of basing it on turnout. (so the person that takes 1st in the Omaha event gets the same amount of points as the person who takes 1st in the NL Hold’em event.

3) Extra points for placing in the main event. We’ve considered this but I’d like feedback on it. Basically there are two schools of thought on this subject. Players should receive more points for placing in the “main event” because it’s a higher buyin tournament and points shouldn’t be any different for the higher buyin event. I’d really like to hear thoughts on this subject especially.

4) Satellites – What kind of satellites would you like to see for the main event? Would you like a $40 tournament on Thursday night instead of the 7pm tournament? Would you like a $20 rebuy on a Friday/Saturday?

Please provide feedback and SPREAD THE WORD! I’d really like the 4th annual GSOP to be the biggest and best!

resonator · Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 1:38 pm Post subject:

I think a really easy way of determining the POY is the person who ends up with the most $.

That would probably make the $40 event with 100 players less important to finish well in than the $200 even with 50. So it would probably come down to the final event.
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brucel · GRAMPA Royalty Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Posts: 2149

Maybe money with some bonus formula for final table appearance (to make sure the less attended events carry a little more weight since the POY hopefully would show some ability in the non NLH events). Oh yea, and bonuses for any one who can prove they are at the WSOP and have to miss two events.

Q · Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 2:57 pm Post subject:

Spike · Donkey Joined: 03 Sep 2005 Posts: 1302

Here is my idea. You award points for getting further in the tournaments. The first event always pulls the most people. You base the points on a full table of knock outs. If you are one of the first 10 people out you get 1 point if you are in the next 10 people to be knocked out you get 2 points and so on until you get to the final table. I believe Q and Greg said that the first event is going to be limited to 100 people. So if you make it to the final two tables but not the final table you'll end up with 9 points for that event. Then the final table is where the points scale up. I would say start 10th place at 13 points and then give an extra 3 points for every place after that.

Here is how you keep points going for people who show. Since the first even NLHE is going to draw the most poeple what you do is treat all the other games as if it were a 100 person even field or 10 full tables. If the PLO game only draws 40 people give the first person to be knocked out the same value in points as the person who was knocked out in 40th at the NLHE event. Then you are encouraging people to sign up and play a game they might not otherwise be inclinde to play and if you get a smaller crowd you're not penalizing people for the field being smaller and you have set amount for the people who show at the final table and not giving them a rediculous lead after the first event.
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cuban1 · Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 5:40 pm Post subject:

I actually agree with Tom's second paragraph about same amount of points based on 100 players even if only 40 show...then that 40th spot gets points according to that spot!
I have given out over 40 flyers so far so I think we should be having a huge tournout this year...hopefully!!!
This should be sweet! Wink

MightyWhitey · GRAMPA Royalty Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Posts: 521

Hey Spike,

The only problem with giving everyone in the tournament points is.... having to keep track of everyone's points.

I did that one year and I don't think I ever want to do that again.

I like your idea if we apply it to the final table... but keeping track of some 200+ different peoples points is way too much work when I"m actually trying to play in these events as well as run them Smile

To Eddie,

THank you for handing out so many flyers... I hope that you changed the date on the ones we handed out on Thursday... (I doubt people are going to read the "all information subject to change part".)

brucel · GRAMPA Royalty Joined: 10 Aug 2005 Posts: 2149

Will there be a way to early sign up and pay to be sure a spot is available?

Can we pay extra to get a padded chair?

resonator · Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 9:45 pm Post subject:

Is there a strip club in Allendale where I can go immediately with my winnings?
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Homer: There's your giraffe, little girl.
Ralph Wiggum: I'm a boy.
Homer: That's the spirit. Never give up.

MightyWhitey · GRAMPA Royalty Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Posts: 521

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resonator · Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 10:50 am Post subject:

Well, we've learned something about Mighty Whitey today!

Looks like I'm going to have to get back to killing my brain with alchahol again tonight.
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Homer: There's your giraffe, little girl.
Ralph Wiggum: I'm a boy.
Homer: That's the spirit. Never give up.

MightyWhitey · GRAMPA Royalty Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Posts: 521

It's not my fault you all took it the wrong way :-p

Quite flexible doesn't have to be physical.... for example.. I could be flexible in allowing you to service of the platinum gold pole... 4 use with strippers that you buy :-p.

Q · Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 12:46 pm Post subject:

We'll need to count the chips again but I think we have enough for somewhere between 120-150. We have always had over 100 players for the first event and we would never turn someone away after they came out to play, unless we absolutely didn't have the room.

CableGuy · GRAMPA's Badass Ninja Joined: 23 Feb 2005 Posts: 1091

If you run out of room, Tom Love can sit on my lap.

cuban1 · Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 1:39 pm Post subject:

Greg, you know Im always like the P.R. guy, trying to recruit new players! lol ...and yes I did update the date on that flyer!

Eric, dont forget to take me with you when you decide to go to the strip club, so that I can hand you $2 bills from my winnings, to give to the ladies!!!

mbreon · Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 9:35 am Post subject:

A weighted point system is a good idea for POY...if you dont want to record for every player, maybe just do the final 2 or 3 tables for the NLHE, LHE, and PLO events...maybe the top 8 for heads-up event....top 2 or 3 tables for the Main Event. You could always give points on a weighted average like 100 pts for first, 90 for 2nd, etc. The Main Event points should be doubled, as it is a larger buy-in....i dont know the model that WSOP uses for their POY, but its worth looking into. or just eliminate POY and have an inviatational event for the top 20 finishers or so overall...like a $100 event or something....wasnt this done in the past?
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Big T · Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 12:11 pm Post subject:

There was a freeroll, by invitation for a seat in the main event last year IIRC.
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gfry11 · Chaser Joined: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 16

Hey all,

My vote would be to somehow keep the TOC with the extra seats going to the top point getters and/or having the top 20 or so having to play into the TOC table. I always thought that was great.

As for the points, I think some sort of weighted point system based on the amount of players and buy-in. For the first four events, I would establish a top percentage of the field that would get points...say 25%...then do it similar to the old GSOP system and add points as players get eliminated. Then add bonus points for final table.

ie: Event #1 100 Participants...25th place 1pt, 24th 2pts...etc. then the Final Table 1st Place 25pts + 20pts (FT Bonus), 2nd Place 24pts + 18pts, 3rd Place 23pts +16pts...etc

Event #2 60 Participants...15th place 1pt, 14th 2pts...then the Final Table: 1st Place 15pts + 20pts, 2nd Place 14pts + 18pts...etc.

Then for Main event, multiply the regular points by a certain amount. I guess X5 would make sense since that is in proportion to the Buy-In, then keep the Final Table Points the same (persuming the field will be smaller for that event).

Just a thought.

All in all, I always thought the TOC was the best part of the series, but either way they are great and I will be at every event if possible.

mbreon · Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 11:49 pm Post subject:

What kind of side games will be running during these?
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Q · Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 12:37 pm Post subject:

Other than supplying some chips, we don't do anything as far as side games. The players can choose whatever they want to play and at what stakes. I think in the past it has been mostly $1-$2 NL, and .50-$1 NL.

cuban1 · Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 10:00 pm Post subject:

There should be some sattelites running towards the main event, I think?
single table buy ins of $25 for 10 people first $200 and second $50...something like that could be happening

mbreon · Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 7:40 am Post subject:

I will try to make as many of these events as I can..... for next year, I hope we can squeeze a rebuy event in there somewhere Cool

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cuban1 · Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 2:40 pm Post subject:

A REBUY!!!? that would be a very CRAZY event! lol
I would like the return of the win your own table and then you will be in the final table event! lol....now that was sweet!!!

purple_duckk · Sail Boats 44 Joined: 02 Oct 2005 Posts: 82

Tim, are you hitting on me? If so could you get me free cable?

friarchucko · Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 11:14 am Post subject:

Are you really that cheap?!! Or is this just a thing you and Tim have going on....remember I'm just an old man , my heart can't take very much wild news! Rolling Eyes

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theoriginalDave · 是我是donk Joined: 07 Oct 2006 Posts: 884

Cheap? You don't have cable do you?

It's cheaper to get a hooker than to watch !!!! these days. Shocked

Dave

friarchucko · Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 11:23 am Post subject:

Cheap.. Why in my day you could .... for just one page out the coupon book... Shocked

did I just give too much info??????
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resonator · Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 11:35 am Post subject:

Yeah, I know it sucks ... Now adays it cost $100 just for a ******* and if you want to **** her *** while you **** in the ****. Man now that is expensive!
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Homer: There's your giraffe, little girl.
Ralph Wiggum: I'm a boy.
Homer: That's the spirit. Never give up.

friarchucko · Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 11:44 am Post subject:

Now I know I'm old ,,,,,I fell asleep just reading that. Exclamation

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cuban1 · Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 5:01 pm Post subject:

I have been asked where are the results of last years 2007 players?
when going to the main page of www.grandrapidspoker.com and you scroll all the way down and you then click on tournament results, all you see is the past events of 2005 & 2006, which does not include 2007 does anyone know what's up with that???

cuban1 · Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 3:06 pm Post subject:

I have handed out over 75 flyers by now and also alot more by word of mouth, so we should have a very good turnout this summer!!! It will be Sweet!!!

MightyWhitey · GRAMPA Royalty Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Posts: 521

Update about parking in main post...

pr3ttyboy616 · Newbie Joined: 29 Apr 2006 Posts: 1 Location: grand rapids

Well i've did a few leagues like this and turnouts are always the problem so we just said ok all are based on a 40 person turnout if less show points still base on 40. 40th gets 5 point 39th gets 6 38th gets 7 and so on but the top 2 get a 5 point bonus for second and 10 point bonus for 1st. I just see it being the only fair way and even tho its top heavy makes it just that much more competitive. Lemme know what u think. Oh if you dont finish in top 40 then you get 0 Points saves everyone time on adding the points up and if u arent top 40 u no good anyways right lol??? I feel as if all tourneys score the same tho even bigger buy in b/c POY should be cumulative not a big banked player who can just win the 200 buy in and get POY with hardly any other good places in other events.

Brent Takus
Pr3ttyboy616@hotmail.com

cuban1 · Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 2:38 pm Post subject:

Sweet! only 4 days left to go for this event! I cant wait!!!

ckbandit · Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:49 pm Post subject:

I figure I'd pull an Eddie and post in every thread in this forum. Tomorrow huh? Can I just send my $40 via USPS?

...and yes, I've been drinking. Q, we're still all wondering what skrulls have to do with Tom waking himself up in the middle of the night doing the robot.
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mbreon · Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:26 am Post subject:

Good luck to those playing in the PLO event - I will not be out there.
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CableGuy · GRAMPA's Badass Ninja Joined: 23 Feb 2005 Posts: 1091

I have to final table ahead of Cory. PotY!

MightyWhitey · GRAMPA Royalty Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Posts: 521

No PLO for you mark? Come on! You said that people should become "experts" in a non NLHE game.... tsk tsk..

cuban1 · Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 2:28 pm Post subject:

This next event shouled be really fun! I cant wait!!!
PLO ~ here I come!
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mbreon · Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 4:42 pm Post subject:

MightyWhitey · GRAMPA Royalty Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Posts: 521

come observe me on saturday if you want to learn PLO Smile

Q · Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:01 pm Post subject:

resonator · Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:32 pm Post subject:

I know it

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Homer: There's your giraffe, little girl.
Ralph Wiggum: I'm a boy.
Homer: That's the spirit. Never give up.