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Ryan
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 5:52 pm    Post subject: GRAMPA Poker Tournament Format and Rules Reply with quote

Regular WPT rules in effect, with these refinements:

-Starting Chips:
GRAMPA uses a variation of the Howard Lederer chip / blind system. There are mainly two chip values, 25 and 100. In the standard Lederer system, each player will be given 8 of each denomination, for a total value of 1000 per player (8 x 25 + 8 x 100 = 1000).

The Lederer Chip system may be increased to 1500 (Lederer 1.5), 2000 (Lederer 2.0) and so on. For more information on the Lederer Chip System, click here.

-Blinds:
Time interval will vary based on number of players present, but it's usually in the neighborhood of 15-20 minutes. Blind levels are as follows:

25-50
50-100
75-150
100-200
150-300
200-400* 25value chips removed at this level
300-600
400-800
500-1000
700-1400
900-1800
1200-2400
1500-3000
2000-4000
2500-5000
3000-6000
5000-10,000
Blinds will be CAPPED at certain points during the game (example, in a four table game, we might cap at 200-400 until the final table, then the cap will be removed until 500-1000 until heads up, then the cap will be removed again).

-Paying Blinds:
Standard practice; the person to the left of the dealer will be the small blind, and the second person to the left of the dealer will be the large blind. When a person is eliminated from the game, if their position will affect the payment of blinds, there will be a dead small blind or dead dealer button, based on the position of the missing player. A large blind will always be paid for each hand.

When the game goes heads-up, the DEALER button will be the SMALL blind, and the other player will be the large blind.

-Paying Antes:
There are no antes at GRAMPA games.

-Dealing:
The dealer button is placed in front of the person with the highest card drawn during buy-in. The cards will be dealt by the person on the button, or by a non-playing permanent dealer. The dealer will shuffle the pack fairly. A cut will be performed or declined by the person to the right of the button, if desired (even if a permanent dealer is selected).

The minimum bet is the value of the LARGE blind.
The minimum raise is the value of the previous bet or raise (per turn).

STRING BETTING will NOT be allowed. Example of a string bet: seat 1 raises to 500. Seat two says "I'll call.... And raise you another 500". That is a string bet. If seat 2 wishes to raise, they must say "RAISE". (The action will be dictated by your words. If you say "I'll call and raise you..." then you have just called, no raising will be allowed).

-Showing hands:
When all betting is complete, and it is time to reveal cards, the first player to reveal is the LAST person to make a bet or raise. If no betting or raising has occurred, the first person to the left of the dealer (that is still in the hand) must reveal their hand. Then, moving left around the table, each consecutive player with a hand has the option to muck their hand, or to reveal their hand.

If a player reveals their hand, they must reveal BOTH cards, not just one.
Hands must not be shown to anyone (even on-lookers) before it is time to reveal your cards. Intentionally revealing your cards before the proper time is equivalent to mucking your hand.

When a player has the option to show his or her cards to anyone (including people not playing), he must make his hand available for everyone to see (show one / show all).


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 5:18 pm    Post subject: Re: GRAMPA Poker Tournament Format and Rules Reply with quote

[quote="Ryan"]Regular WPT rules in effect, with these refinements:


THESE ARE GOOD RULES - USE THEM

-If a player reveals their hand, they must reveal BOTH cards, not just one.
Hands must not be shown to anyone (even on-lookers) before it is time to reveal your cards. Intentionally revealing your cards before the proper time is equivalent to mucking your hand.

When a player has the option to show his or her cards to anyone (including people not playing), he must make his hand available for everyone to see (show one / show all).
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a sweet format!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If a player reveals their hand, they must reveal BOTH cards, not just one.
Hands must not be shown to anyone (even on-lookers) before it is time to reveal your cards. Intentionally revealing your cards before the proper time is equivalent to mucking your hand.


These particular rules suck. You should be able to show one and you should be able to show cards when heads up during the hand. Its poker - psychology is part of the game.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think if the hand is at a showdown you need to show both cards to win the pot.

However, if you bet and your villain(s) fold on the river, I think you should be able to show one card without showing them both. They have changed this rule on the WPT and I believe it will be in effect for this year's WSOP as well. Makes no sense that you have to show both if your opponents muck.

Most poker tournaments will not let you reveal one card during the hand or allow you to play your hand face up, even when in a heads-up situation. The only exception I can think of to this deals with heads-up tournaments. In a regular tourney though, that rule is probably not going to change.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Most poker tournaments will not let you reveal one card during the hand or allow you to play your hand face up, even when in a heads-up situation. The only exception I can think of to this deals with heads-up tournaments. In a regular tourney though, that rule is probably not going to change.


That is correct but it still sucks.

BTW, yesterday at Westgate that happened (was by accident though) and AFTER THE HAND (cause not in the hand) I asked for clarification and the floor said if you do it you get a warning so the conclusion was we each got to do it once - a freebie. In fact the printed poster wall rules says exactly that - first time a warning second time a 10 minute penalty and not sure what was after that.

If you are going to have that rule then certainly the intentionally exposed hand should be dead.
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